Talk:Logan/@comment-46734876-20201104195105/@comment-38927245-20201208014621

'''Now that I've refreshed the hearty BloodClan/LionClan saga for myself, I have written up a character analysis about my character Logan, healer of BloodClan. As a neutral party looking back on a character written by myself two years ago, I see many flaws, and yes, he does not deserve to go to StarClan. But not necessarily the Dark Forest either-- I believe that he belongs somewhere in between-- a dark, senseless limbo, eternally awaiting judgment. '''

'''Phew, that sounded edgy. I'll elaborate later, but first, here are my responses to your stated claims.'''

"HE KILLED 3 CATS AND LITERALLY RUINED THE FACE OF ANOTHER. HOW DISGUSTING IT IS THAT HE ENDS UP IN STARCLAN. NO HE DIDN'T "rEdEeM hIs sInS". HE KILLED THOSE CATS IN COLD BLOOD. HE MANGLED CURRENT'S FACE IN COLD BLOOD."

'''Yes, he killed three cats. One intended to protect Ghost but more to preserve his place in BloodClan-- this was definitely a selfish move but not exactly cold-blooded. He did not kill for the sake of killing. Now, the two others-- Hydroheart and Silverfur. As far as I know, Silverfur's killing was unprovoked-- bad Logan-- but Hydroheart's was a mercy kill if one had read it in the battlefield studio. Even Logan believed he was doing something right-- putting her out of her misery before a worse fate befell her. And note this-- he felt remorse and regret toward all three deaths, even stated in this wiki page. According to the Cambridge English Dictionary, to "kill in cold blood" is to "kill in a way that seems especially cruel because it seems to show no emotion." '''

'''The part about him mangling Current's face-- it looks very bad stated in the out-of-context manner presented on this page. I must provide some background information. Prior to the battle in which this happened, Logan was captured by a LionClan patrol. During his time in captivity, a sequence of events led to Currentwhisper confessing love to him just before his release. When he gave no response, Currentwhisper began to cry, and not wanting to hurt her, Logan said, and I quote, "I never said no." This seemed to reassure Current. However, this 'affair' ended up nearly ripping apart Logan's and Ghost's existing relationship-- yes, the fact he told Ghost about this was very poorly executed on my part, I'll admit that-- and getting Logan booted from BloodClan, the only community that had accepted him since birth. And this is when he realized what he'd done-- and his flaws kicked in. I realized throughout my information dive that Logan had a huge flaw I never canonically addressed (perhaps a projection of my own personality when I played as the character), and that is the act of blaming his own faults on others and refusing to accept he's done wrong. '''

'''Blinded with misdirected rage and only vengeance on his mind, he attacked poor sweet Current in the third battle, the same one in which he killed Robinwind (As for Robinwind, by the way, Logan’s snide remark regarding her to Scourge was not a hundred percent genuine-- more of an attempt to conform the way he spoke to fit BloodClan’s standards). I won't in any way justify his ending another cat’s life and ruining another’s, but keep in mind that this was the timeframe in which his loyalty to BloodClan was challenged most. At one point, Scourge had quotedly told him to “not stay away from the blood” during battle three, indirectly implying expectations and pressure for Logan to kill, if not injure, a cat. This undoubtedly set him in much turmoil and out of his comfort zone, as he had realized his actions, his killing of innocent Clan cats, had consequences after the first battle.'''

'''Then we realize that he could’ve definitely killed Current at that moment but didn’t. He got what he thought was revenge, and left her be. This event led him into even more trouble with Scourge (Yes, I was acting like a complete brat during that RP chain.) and nearly made him lose his social status once again. He had the chance to kill Current, and probably would’ve, given just how outraged he still was, but in the end chose to leave her alive. Of course, the sparing of Current doesn’t at all make up for the disfiguring of her face, but this shows that, again, the action wasn’t all the way in cold blood.'''

'''No, Logan never did redeem his sins in the end. That statement was therefore a mistake on my part. But he was able to recognize them and feel remorse, as seen by the hallucinations he suffered while captured a second time (as Logheart) in LionClan. These sins still plagued him till the very end-- much exhibited in his act of relying on eating poppy seeds to numb his own emotions during the last canon moons of his life. A cold-blooded killer, in my belief, never realizes nor admits to his wrongdoings because his mind is twisted to the point of no return, to the point of normalizing his actions.'''

“I HOPE HE FALLS OUT OF STARCLAN AND BREAKS HIS NECK ON A ROCK IN THE DARK FOREST BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE HE SHOULD RESIDE.”

'''So does he. Unironically. All his friends are canonically Dark Forest destinees. In a way, being forced to reside in StarClan with unfamiliar LionClan cats is a form of punishment to him by itself. '''

'''“you know what's also funny? how cliche and 2009 this character is.”'''

'''I can assure you that no cliches were used as references during the entire writing of him. I was twelve years of age and had yet to explore the wide world of fictional tropes. And 2009 is an oddly specific insult.'''

'''“- Killed cats in cold blood? Yep”'''

'''Warm blood. I’ve specified already and will not do so again, sorry.'''

'''“- In Bloodclan? Yes”'''

'''This roleplay gave you two teams to choose from, BloodClan or LionClan. At one point, LionClan was full. If simply being a member of BloodClan makes a character terribly written and completely, utterly deserving of the ninth circle of cat hell, then I don’t know what doesn’t.'''

'''“- High ranked in bloodclan? Again, correct.”'''

'''In a dog-eat-dog, merciless society like BloodClan, I wouldn’t imagine a rank that heals the weak to be considered a spot of honor at all. '''

'''“- TwAgIc backstory? Mhm.”'''

'''Does being an abandoned kitten make him tragic?... I would also like to note that the unfortunate events that happened to Logan during the roleplay’s story arc were not caused by me trying to write him a “TwAgIc” backstory. Do you think I told each of his trainees to go die or betray BloodClan? Did I ask for Ghost to go ahead and get killed off by dogs? This doesn’t make sense at all. Does having a rough, unfortunate life earn a character mockery now? What a world we live in.'''

'''“- Ends up in Starclan anyways? Correct!!”'''

'''The way you phrased all this seems to imply that having a tragic story arc somehow negatively contributes to where a character resides in their afterlife. '''

“also from what i've heard from a friend the roleplaying was super petty and would throw hissy fits all the time (plus accusing them of powerplaying in which no, he didnnt, thats just stupid)”

'''This has to be one of the only lines in your commentary that I 100%, wholeheartedly agree with. I sucked. Brought about too much drama and toxicity in the RP, was probably the main reason it died out. I also didn’t at all care about others’ feelings, killing off their characters with no restraint and exploiting the non-consensual-killing rule. Yeah, I’m sorry. Logan was definitely a bit of a Gary-Stu and I appeared to only care about the plot for some hypothetical animated series shebang.'''

'''I also basically begged Russet out-of-roleplay for Logan to keep his spiky collar. Yikes. Sorry, Russet. I probably pissed you off so many times over the course of the roleplay’s running.'''

'''In conclusion, I see Logan as a morally gray character-- not beyond redemption, but not having reached redemption either. One could say he had a kind heart corrupted by his desperately modifying himself to conform to the standards of BloodClan. Therefore justifies my choice of placing him in a limbo to spend the rest of time-- neither banishment to hell with his friends or ascension to a heaven filled with enemies, because he never picked a side.'''